I started a thread 16 years ago about the 1975 debacle. I went through this non-event. We were studying a Watchtower article where the Society blamed its members for the debacle ... ''reading into things, becoming disheartened, slowing down in the field ministry and had little time for spiritual matters.''
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1975 selling of houses
by Paul Bonanno inas 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.
do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.
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Dirt floors in Africa, Ultra modern Towers in Indonesia
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmatthew 19:21. jesus said to him, “if you will to be perfect, go away, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven, and come, follow me.”.
jw family tanzania - bukombe kingdom hall.
nothing like attending your local kingdom hall in africa with dirt floors, tarps as a roof, brutal heat with no air-conditioning, and small wooden benches to sit on after a hard days work.. does the society help this congregation in africa with a suitable kingdom hall that would have the local members more comfortable with these unbearable conditions?.
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And he also said that Christians should build beautiful retirement resorts for the GB and great cinema studios and forget about the poor, the sick, the widows and the elderly. That would be the way to distinguish the true Christians, wouldn't it?!The religious order, known as the Worldwide Order of Special Full Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses, is hoping to build an A/V production center with audio and video production studios and facilities to support operations of the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The facilities include offices, maintenance and set production workshops, and a central chilled/hot water plant with geothermal heat recovery system. Accommodations for resident staff include 645 residential units (545 one-bedroom and 100 studio units), dining/assembly spaces, recreation/wellness/fitness facilities, and a clinic.
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Dirt floors in Africa, Ultra modern Towers in Indonesia
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmatthew 19:21. jesus said to him, “if you will to be perfect, go away, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven, and come, follow me.”.
jw family tanzania - bukombe kingdom hall.
nothing like attending your local kingdom hall in africa with dirt floors, tarps as a roof, brutal heat with no air-conditioning, and small wooden benches to sit on after a hard days work.. does the society help this congregation in africa with a suitable kingdom hall that would have the local members more comfortable with these unbearable conditions?.
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Matthew 19:21Jesus said to him, “If you will to be perfect, go away, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in Heaven, and come, follow Me.”Jw Family Tanzania - Bukombe Kingdom Hall
Nothing like attending your local Kingdom Hall in Africa with dirt floors, tarps as a roof, brutal heat with no air-conditioning, and small wooden benches to sit on after a hard days work.
Does the Society help this congregation in Africa with a suitable Kingdom Hall that would have the local members more comfortable with these unbearable conditions?
Let's go to Indonesia and see what the Watchtower Society do with their donations.
A Branch Office in the Sky
In 2008, Indonesia reached a peak of 21,699 publishers. The branch facilities were stretched to the limit. Also, because the facilities were built during the ban, they were in an out-of-the-way location. Clearly, a larger branch nearer to Jakarta was needed.
About two years later, the brothers purchased a property that was very different from the previous branch—the entire 31st floor of an ultra-modern 42-story office tower near central Jakarta. The brothers next bought 12 floors in a nearby apartment tower to accommodate 80 or more Bethelites. They also acquired a five-story building to house the Bethel Home departments.
A team of construction servants from different countries worked along with local contractors to remodel the offices and the apartments. “Jehovah repeatedly helped us through seemingly intractable problems,” says construction overseer Darren Berg. “For example, we wanted to install a state-of-the-art wastewater treatment plant, but the authorities were unfamiliar with the technology and refused to approve it. Then a local Witness who is an engineer took our case to a senior official. The official promptly approved our request, stating that he completely trusted our brother’s recommendation.”
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1975 selling of houses
by Paul Bonanno inas 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.
do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.
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I’ve mentioned d this before, but I was at the district assembly in summer of 1976, in Chicago. Fred Franz was there to give a talk. He shook his finger at the audience and said that nothing happened in 1975 because “You wanted something to happen.”Fred Franz Speech on 1975
https://youtu.be/yBwKX-5qXT0
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1975 selling of houses
by Paul Bonanno inas 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.
do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.
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I was baptized in 1974 at the age of 14. The approaching end of the system was near. Watchtower articles, talks, assemblies and literature about 1975 were in a frenzy. Field service was at an all time high!
There was one brother who owned a small hot dog/beef stand who sold his business and pioneered. 1975 came and went. He quit attending meetings after the ''new system'' failed to appear.
After 1975, the Watchtower Society blamed its debacle on its members for reading into things, and not the Society for the NON-stop pounding of the ''nearness of Jehovah's day.''
IT WAS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE WHO HEAVILY PROMOTED 1975 AS ''THE END OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS''...NOT THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS!
Clearly, Jesus was concerned that his followers too could become distracted by Satan's world, even to the point that they might "return to the things behind." (Luke 17:22, 31) And, indeed, this has happened to some Christians. For years such ones longed for the day when Jehovah will put an end to this wicked world. However, when Armageddon did not occur by the time they expected, ` they became disheartened. Their confidence in the nearness of Jehovah's day of judgment faded. They slowed down in the ministry and gradually became so involved in the mundane matters of life that little time was left for spiritual matters. (Luke 8:11, 13, 14) In time, they `returned to the things behind'--how sad!
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Does anybody ever wonder why ?
by smiddy3 insupposedly, god jehovah, el , or whatever else he may have been called many thousands of years ago, or so the storys goes ,dealt with humans on a regular basis communicating with them for either good or bad.according to how they pleased him or displeased him.. so the bible record says.. how is it that god , jehovah or whatever other name you want to call him has not communicated with humans on any level for the past 2000 years ???.
in this scientific ,technological age ,wouldn`t you think this would be the time he would communicate with the potential dangers we face in potentially destroying ourselves and ruining the planets wildlife unless he interveined ?.
that`s if you even beleive that such a god actually exists .. and if he does why so silent in this day and age,?.
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Supposedly, God spoke to Adam, Cain, Noah, Joseph, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Samuel, David, Job and Jesus ( Mark 1:11 when he calls Jesus his beloved Son).
Once you realize that the Bible is mythology, you will understand why God hasn't spoken to anyone since the death of the last apostles.
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Looking at things from Jehovah's perspective...actually, the Watchtower Society's perspective
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | march 2022. study article 12. do you see what zechariah saw?.
11. what challenges do some of jehovah’s worshippers face today?.
11 change is challenging for many of us.
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In all 3 instances, ample proof was presented to each member but only some woke up, and rightfully left - like yourself. Why is that? There is clearly something missing in some people who are susceptible to cults and cannot leave. Any ideas what it might be? Anyone that ventures a theory or pschoanalysis, I really want to know.
Great post ThomasMore!
I was a Jehovah's Witness for close to 40 years. Stopped attending all meetings (faded) nine years ago. I have over 20 family members who still attend meetings. Why did I fade and my family still attend? I was getting mentally exhausted, couldn't live with the lies of the Watchtower Society and I told myself that I would have to live with all the consequences from leaving. My family have left me alone and so have the Elders. It's up to every individual to stay or leave. Some choose to stay for family...some choose to stay for comfort...some choose to stay because that is all they know!
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Looking at things from Jehovah's perspective...actually, the Watchtower Society's perspective
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | march 2022. study article 12. do you see what zechariah saw?.
11. what challenges do some of jehovah’s worshippers face today?.
11 change is challenging for many of us.
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Some who served in a form of special full-time service for a long time have received a change of assignment. Translation: The now defunct District Overseer assignment and other assignments that received full financial support were cut due to corporate downsizing.
Exactly! Just like our District Overseer Mario Beltrami and his wife who were thrown down to the curb when he reached a certain age. What did he receive after all his years of dedication and service? A small apartment in Florida. My brother and many other Elders in his congregation send them money every month so they can survive and pay their rent, food and insurance.
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Looking at things from Jehovah's perspective...actually, the Watchtower Society's perspective
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | march 2022. study article 12. do you see what zechariah saw?.
11. what challenges do some of jehovah’s worshippers face today?.
11 change is challenging for many of us.
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The Watchtower—Study Edition | March 2022
STUDY ARTICLE 12
Do You See What Zechariah Saw?
11. What challenges do some of Jehovah’s worshippers face today?
11 Change is challenging for many of us. Some who served in a form of special full-time service for a long time have received a change of assignment. Others have had to relinquish a cherished privilege because of their age. It is normal to feel disappointed when such a change affects us. Initially, we may not fully understand the decision or agree with it. We may miss the way things used to be. And we may become discouraged, feeling that in our new circumstances, we are of little use to Jehovah. (Prov. 24:10) How can Zechariah’s vision help us to keep giving our best to our God?
12. How can Zechariah’s vision help us to cope with disappointment resulting from a change in our circumstances?
12 We cope better with change when we look at things from Jehovah’s perspective. He is accomplishing great things today, and we have the unique privilege of being his fellow workers. (1 Cor. 3:9) Our responsibilities may change, but Jehovah’s love for us will not. Consequently, if a change in the organization affects you personally, avoid getting caught up in the whys and wherefores behind the change. Rather than long for “the former days,” prayerfully look for the good in the change. (Eccl. 7:10) Rather than think about the things you can no longer do, think about all the things you can do. From Zechariah’s vision, we learn the importance of keeping a positive attitude. Thus we will remain joyful and faithful even when our circumstances change.
After you take off your rose-colored glasses, you finally begin to see how the Watchtower Society use the Watchtower Study for blind obedience and compliance. The articles are just a steering mechanism.
The Watchtower Society operates as a business, with business interests and ventures. They close Branches, lay off Bethelites, reduce workforces, sell Kingdom Halls and Brooklyn properties. And, don't forget the payouts from of all lawsuits filed against them.
Don't ask questions! Don't get disappointed or discouraged! Prayerfully look for the good in the change while the Society runs off with all the proceeds.
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Jesus's bread illustration, JW Broadcasting silly bread illustration
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'' this is garlic powder.
the son of adam tainted our pure relationship with jehovah.
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"A spring does not cause the fresh water and the bitter water to bubble out of the same opening, does it?" James 3:11
Thank you neat blue dog for getting my point! These fools at the WTBTS are supposedly ''God's representatives'' here on earth? They have ''sayings of everlasting life''? I don't think so.